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Also, I've long expected a band with a queer take on hair metal to emerge and get popular - a group of trans women who look and sound like early Motley Crue? - but that sub-genre is so uncool that it's unlikely to happen.

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Keith Kahn-Harris's avatar

In some respects hair metal always had a kind of queer sensibility. It was for that reason that they compensated through rampant misogyny.

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When did "extreme metal" come to be seen as the standard for the genre? If you go back and look up old episodes of HEADBANGER'S BALL- and, yes, obviously MTV's idea of metal was very flawed - most of them are full of bands who make Ghost sound as abrasive as Deicide, but that was the average person's notion of metal even into the early 90s.

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Keith Kahn-Harris's avatar

I think it's partially because the metal 'mainstream' has, since the mid-late-90s, incorporated elements of extreme metal. It's also because, in the kind of discourse I am talking about in this article treats extreme metal as the form of metal with the most radical potential

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That's probably true, although I can picture an explicitly leftist version of Sabaton.

I happened to watch a Dawn Ray'd video today, scrolled down to look at the comments (always a terrible idea on YouTube), and saw that most came from pissed-off right-wingers who hate the band's politics.

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Keith Kahn-Harris's avatar

Good to know!

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